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President's Community College Plan - May be realistic because itís dirt cheap

kenc

Posted 3:10 pm, 02/05/2015

Community colleges do a great service for people who want to learn and better themselves.

Eat at Moes

Posted 2:46 pm, 02/05/2015

Oh yeh? I had a great k-12 education in Wilkes. Definitely not "worth nothing".

Also, the requirements to get free Community College is almost perfectly laid out. It's working GREAT in Tennessee (a republican controlled

Stardust

Posted 2:33 pm, 02/05/2015

When you get something for nothing, that's usually exactly what it's worth!

smokerking

Posted 3:54 pm, 01/14/2015

Having a Bachelor's degree will barely get you in the door at most places. I don't see an Associate's degree as being worth much unless it is in a skilled trade. Just my observation.

I also agree with Decsurvey, most of the truly wealthy people that I have met are all self made and have a lot of common and business sense. Very, very few of them are college educated.

Skeptic

Posted 3:24 pm, 01/14/2015

Major schools will need a bailout.

koi

Posted 1:32 pm, 01/14/2015

When I think of Community Colleges, I think of long lines and uninterested people that are supposed to be there to help you. Take WCC for instance. Every time I have ever been to the student office, they are very non helpful, and you know why? They have a guaranteed job, and do not care if you get help or not. I once waited an hour to see a counselor, and the sad part about it was I overheard her talking about planning a baby shower to someone on the phone for 30 minutes. I can promise you of community colleges become tuition free, you will see the larger universities try to make it harder on kids to get into their front doors. It's a good idea on paper, but that's about it.

White America

Posted 1:32 pm, 01/14/2015

Government involvement is the reason the cost of increased in the first place. I paid for my nephews community college tuition back in the late 90's 15 hours a semester, less than 650 dollars a term.

Same school today, oh wait they upgraded themselves to a state college so they could profit off the federal aid programs. and rasie the tuition to the state schools level They also set up a state credit Union at the school to receive the aid directly from the feds. Even in the 90's most 70% or so of the kids got aid from the feds at the community level.

This is the same as ebt, just a scam for business to profit off the tax payers.

decsurvey

Posted 1:24 pm, 01/14/2015

I have a degree and work in what use to be a professional occupation. I make slightly above the average salary. BUT when I compare what I made working in furniture in 1992 and allow for inflation I make about the same as I did on production line at Broyhill.

The difference I spent $35,000 for college to make the same as I did with a HSD.

I have a brother who drives a truck with 30 years behind the wheel. He makes almost double what I do and he never finished HS.

Builder and developer I went to school with both never finished. They both make $150,000 plus a year.

Same for the guy that runs his own septic tank pumper. Never finished and makes double what I do per year.

College and education are great. I think the community college free is a great idea.

It is all in what the person wants. Those who seem to be self starters and independent seem to do far better with or without a college degree.

mommotwo

Posted 1:18 pm, 01/14/2015

Vega, I actually do know how long my child's teacher spends at school. I also know if she's spending 60 hours a week working then she has HORRIBLE time management skills. I'm not against teachers. I'm just being realistic.

LearnToFly

Posted 12:39 pm, 01/14/2015

presto (view profile)
Posted 11:12 am, 01/14/2015
The best plan is for the Feds to get out of the education field. The community colleges are now where the high schools were 15 years ago, Educations standards have dropped

Exactly! Overall, yet not in EVERY case, you need at least a Bachelors to get anything with a decent wage. I'm not saying you'll be rolling in dough, but more likely you'll be able to live comfortably within reasonable means and not need help from the almighty government. Then a Masters degree would be even better and perhaps more preferred here within the next 10 years.

presto

Posted 12:21 pm, 01/14/2015

What does the assistants do? If the teacher does all the work/

Vega

Posted 12:08 pm, 01/14/2015

Mommo, if you really knew the true hours a teacher worked, you would feel different. Do you really think their work ends after spending 8-9 hours a day in the school building? Papers have to be graded, tests written, and lesson plans finished. Some teachers obviously work different hours based upon the demands of their curriculum but I know very few that put in less than 60 hours per week.

mommotwo

Posted 11:22 am, 01/14/2015

We, in NC, pay a new teacher pennies compared to other countries. Pay someone cheap and you'll get someone who does cheap work.

We aren't in other countries. We are in America so shouldn't their salary be in comparison with other occupations in America? They are not paid "cheap" considering their hours, etc. If they are doing "cheap" work, then replace them.

Eat At Moes

Posted 11:15 am, 01/14/2015

presto (view profile)

The best plan is for the Feds to get out of the education field. The community colleges are now where the high schools were 15 years ago, Educations standards have dropped



The education standard hasn't dropped so much as the need for better education has risen. We, in NC, pay a new teacher pennies compared to other countries. Pay someone cheap and you'll get someone who does cheap work.

presto

Posted 11:12 am, 01/14/2015

The best plan is for the Feds to get out of the education field. The community colleges are now where the high schools were 15 years ago, Educations standards have dropped

1goddess

Posted 11:09 am, 01/14/2015

DUH!!! ya think...they do...it's the American Taxpayer!!!!

empowers

Posted 11:08 am, 01/14/2015

The federal government must have a never-ending supply of money.

mommotwo

Posted 11:05 am, 01/14/2015

we should be figuring out why colleges charge so much and work to reduce the cost.

Yes. This.

mommotwo

Posted 11:03 am, 01/14/2015

If it were handled properly, then yes I think it might be a good idea. I just doubt very seriously it would be handled properly. I think if community college is available free of charge to every student, then the next step would be to evaluate the financial aid given to attend elsewhere (at least for the first two years).

brushymtnc

Posted 11:03 am, 01/14/2015

Would somebody please explain to me how is this "free". Every time I hear the government say something is free my arse automatically goes into pucker mode because I know somebody is going to get reamed and its usually the US tax payer.

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