edgecombe

I agree with Chendo and see his point. There's a difference in ethnicity and nationality.

To be continued....I gotta go to work...

(Work?....Hey....what am I doing wrong?)

I'm hispanic...i am nowhere near "immigrant" or "illegal"

You can't use "immigrant" or "illegal" interchangeably with "hispanic"

In 2009 (based on data collected in 2010), 57 percent of households headed by an immigrant (legal and illegal) with children (under 18) used at least one welfare program, compared to 39 percent for native households with children.

Immigrant households' use of welfare tends to be much higher than natives for food assistance programs and Medicaid. Their use of cash and housing programs tends to be similar to native households.

A large share of the welfare used by immigrant households with children is received on behalf of their U.S.-born children, who are American citizens. But even households with children comprised entirely of immigrants (no U.S.-born children) still had a welfare use rate of 56 percent in 2009.

Immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives, even before the current recession. In 2001, 50 percent of all immigrant households with children used at least one welfare program, compared to 32 percent for natives.

Households with children with the highest welfare use rates are those headed by immigrants from the Dominican Republic (82 percent), Mexico and Guatemala (75 percent), and Ecuador (70 percent). Those with the lowest use rates are from the United Kingdom (7 percent), India (19 percent), Canada (23 percent), and Korea (25 percent).

The states where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62 percent); Texas, California, and New York (61 percent); Pennsylvania (59 percent); Minnesota and Oregon (56 percent); and Colorado (55 percent).

We estimate that 52 percent of households with children headed by legal immigrants used at least one welfare program in 2009, compared to 71 percent for illegal immigrant households with children. Illegal immigrants generally receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children.

Illegal immigrant households with children primarily use food assistance and Medicaid, making almost no use of cash or housing assistance. In contrast, legal immigrant households tend to have relatively high use rates for every type of program.

High welfare use by immigrant-headed households with children is partly explained by the low education level of many immigrants. Of households headed by an immigrant who has not graduated high school, 80 percent access the welfare system, compared to 25 percent for those headed by an immigrant who has at least a bachelor's degree.

Repub...most hispanics do not receive assistance.

Let me clarify...most hispanics in the US...
You may be right about Wilkes. Or even nc.

DUH!

The title of the report summed up the IG's finding: "Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to Work in the United States Were Paid $4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits."

The credits currently amount to $1,000 per child, and they are "refundable," meaning that parents may receive refunds even when they do not owe any tax.

The IG report stated that more than 2.3 million persons who did not have Social Security numbers valid for working in the U.S. got an average of roughly $1,800 each in 2010 in child tax credit refunds. That included 9,000 illegal immigrants who each got a total of $10,000 or more by retroactively claiming credits for tax years prior to 2010.

You can't be that naive

How do you get a tax return without paying taxes? If anyone gets a refund, that means they have paid into the IRS. duh.

I did not see anyone saying most Hispanics are illegal but that most illegals are Hispanic. However, whether legal or illegal I would venture to say that most Hispanics receive government assistance.

Most illegals are hispanic....

That doesn't mean most Hispanics are illegal

Thread title says pretty plainly that it is about illegal aliens. And I totally agree with the opinions that most people have about illegals. and the social, and economic problems they bring.

Maybe it's just me, but I think we should strive to be precise in our speech, and clear in our debates.

Nope...she made no caveat. You made a statement after her, but it was not a caveat. I don't think that word means what you think it does...

And I am pretty frkn far from liberal.

? In what way am I attempting to speak for the entire illegal population? Or even for the hen tire hispanic population?

She made a caveat? Where? I didn't read it...let me scroll back up

I say grow a thicker skin...that's what I say!! Everyone gets so freakin offended on this site....mostly the liberal crowd....daaaaang!!!

so exactly how can you speak for the illegal population...in reference to your question regarding emp's reference to being better off if he/she were hispanic? and keep in mind that he/she made this reference with the caveat that hispanics make up more than 80% of the illegal population here. He/she stated the words. Then you proceeded to put words into emp's mouth. You don't see that?

"If I were hispanic, I would have fared better"

Vs

"If I were illegal, I would have fared better"

Which statement is more accurate and germane to the discussion?