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I'm not saying the transgendered are dangerous. I'm saying that it opens up too much access for others and is impossible to monitor or control.

BTW, there actually are many lesbians that use male restrooms. That's not uncommon at all in the workplace. No one is willing to say anything for fear of being sued.

Guess we should assume that all women who don't look feminine enough in our eyes, and all men who don't look masculine enough, are transgender and dangerous ?

What about after the transition is complete and the person now has female genitals?

umm.....yea...I guess this is the um...."correct" answer.

Exactly, Youweresaying. Most transgender people will probably do that. When you appear more female than male, you would not want to continue using a public mens room and shouldn't have to. I think Mommotwo thinks that gay people are going to be running all over choosing a different bathroom every day, lol. The issue is about transgender people who are transitioning or transitioned from one sex to another.

Would you go empty you bladder In the mens room without discomfort?

NO. So why should a man be allowed in the womens restroom? Cause that's gonna make me uncomfortable too!! Regardless of what someone "identifies" as...they are what they are.

What someone does or wears in their own home is not my concern as long as it doesn't affect innocents. What they force into acceptance IS MY CONCERN.

This is a tricky one. My personal opinion is that a male transitioning to female should continue to use the men's room until they reach a point in the transition in which they appear and can identify as a female. At that time I think they should begin to use the ladies room. It would be dangerous at that point for them to continue using the mens room and by changing to the ladies room there would be no danger for other ladies or the individual transitioning.

Do some research Mom.

It's common sense. If you constantly try to justify deviant actions (transgender), then I'm going to expect that you defend other deviant behavior. We spend entirely too much time trying to label and defend actions that are just not acceptable. Period.

And they didn't. Who in their right mind is sexually attracted to children and never to an adult? They have a disorder of some kind, that justifies their actions in no way. We are talking about pedophiles here. These people cant be cured, so if they act on their impulses lock them up and throw away the key.

They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women.










Just sounds like a familiar defense in saying that it's something they cannot help. They just never "developed" normally.

Would you care to explain how that quote sounds like someone is trying to justify their deviance? These are the words of a researcher, not a pedophile, lol. Nobody is justifying pedophilia, just showing you that pedophiles and h*mosexuals are not one and the same. Neither are transgendered people to get back on topic.

I hate it when I go into the men's restroom and there are no urinals. ..

.and a bunch of women in there.

The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children � boys, girls, or children of both sexes."







O.K. ....so why does this sound like someone is trying to justify their deviance?







Another topic all together, but if a transgendered person feels uncomfortable going into the restroom that matches their actual physical gender, then why is it hard to understand how I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH SOMEONE OF A DIFFERENT GENDER IN THE SAME RESTROOM I AM? ps....don't think for a second that we can't tell the difference in a male dressed like a female. Ugh.

Gay men aren't going to be using the ladies room lol. What interest would a gay man have in the ladies room? A MTF transgendered person might want to use the ladies room however and if he is dressing as a woman you would never know and probably don't now.

I think this woud open up a loop hole for sexual predators. You could have someone "claiming" to be taking advantage of their rights, when they are in fact using this as a means to commit crimes against people. This seems very dangerous.

UU, are you uncomfortable using a male restroom?

I am 48, soon to be 49, years old. I have walked In on exactly ONE Instance of sex going on In a mens room (In Alamance County at a rest stop by the way). I hurried past the activity, peed Into a toilet and left the room. End of story.

A MTF transgendered person probably has little attraction to other females

...tell that to Bruce Jenner...