mommotwo
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Posted 12:30 pm, 03/02/2015
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I'm not saying the transgendered are dangerous. I'm saying that it opens up too much access for others and is impossible to monitor or control.
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mommotwo
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Posted 12:28 pm, 03/02/2015
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BTW, there actually are many lesbians that use male restrooms. That's not uncommon at all in the workplace. No one is willing to say anything for fear of being sued.
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kenc
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Posted 12:26 pm, 03/02/2015
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Guess we should assume that all women who don't look feminine enough in our eyes, and all men who don't look masculine enough, are transgender and dangerous ?
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mommotwo
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Posted 12:25 pm, 03/02/2015
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What about after the transition is complete and the person now has female genitals?
umm.....yea...I guess this is the um...."correct" answer.
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50 Shades of Gay
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Posted 12:22 pm, 03/02/2015
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Exactly, Youweresaying. Most transgender people will probably do that. When you appear more female than male, you would not want to continue using a public mens room and shouldn't have to. I think Mommotwo thinks that gay people are going to be running all over choosing a different bathroom every day, lol. The issue is about transgender people who are transitioning or transitioned from one sex to another. What stage do you think a mtf transgender should be allowed to use the ladies room, Mom? After they have breasts and appear female but still have male genitals? It's not like children are going to see genitals in the ladies room, there are stalls with doors. What about after the transition is complete and the person now has female genitals? Do you still have a problem with them using the ladies room?
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mommotwo
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Posted 12:20 pm, 03/02/2015
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Would you go empty you bladder In the mens room without discomfort?
NO. So why should a man be allowed in the womens restroom? Cause that's gonna make me uncomfortable too!! Regardless of what someone "identifies" as...they are what they are.
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TheUUShadow
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Posted 12:17 pm, 03/02/2015
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No, I go In, urinate, wash my hands, and leave. But If I Identified as something other than male I could see the discomfort kicking In.
Would you go empty you bladder In the mens room without discomfort?
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mommotwo
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Posted 12:15 pm, 03/02/2015
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What someone does or wears in their own home is not my concern as long as it doesn't affect innocents. What they force into acceptance IS MY CONCERN.
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youweresaying
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Posted 12:14 pm, 03/02/2015
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This is a tricky one. My personal opinion is that a male transitioning to female should continue to use the men's room until they reach a point in the transition in which they appear and can identify as a female. At that time I think they should begin to use the ladies room. It would be dangerous at that point for them to continue using the mens room and by changing to the ladies room there would be no danger for other ladies or the individual transitioning.
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mommotwo
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Posted 12:14 pm, 03/02/2015
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Do some research Mom.
It's common sense. If you constantly try to justify deviant actions (transgender), then I'm going to expect that you defend other deviant behavior. We spend entirely too much time trying to label and defend actions that are just not acceptable. Period.
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50 Shades of Gay
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Posted 12:10 pm, 03/02/2015
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And they didn't. Who in their right mind is sexually attracted to children and never to an adult? They have a disorder of some kind, that justifies their actions in no way. We are talking about pedophiles here. These people cant be cured, so if they act on their impulses lock them up and throw away the key.
Then you have run of the mill child molesters. They are usually alcoholic, straight men, who like to rape little girls from time to time, and little boys. Their major issue is they are alcoholics with lowered inhibitions and probably sociopaths in general. They just don't give a crap about anything except their own selfish needs. The world is full of these people.
Do some research Mom.
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mommotwo
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Posted 12:04 pm, 03/02/2015
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They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women.
Just sounds like a familiar defense in saying that it's something they cannot help. They just never "developed" normally.
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50 Shades of Gay
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Posted 12:01 pm, 03/02/2015
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Would you care to explain how that quote sounds like someone is trying to justify their deviance? These are the words of a researcher, not a pedophile, lol. Nobody is justifying pedophilia, just showing you that pedophiles and h*mosexuals are not one and the same. Neither are transgendered people to get back on topic.
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chendo
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Posted 12:00 pm, 03/02/2015
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I hate it when I go into the men's restroom and there are no urinals. ..
.and a bunch of women in there.
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mommotwo
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Posted 11:56 am, 03/02/2015
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The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children � boys, girls, or children of both sexes."
O.K. ....so why does this sound like someone is trying to justify their deviance?
Another topic all together, but if a transgendered person feels uncomfortable going into the restroom that matches their actual physical gender, then why is it hard to understand how I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH SOMEONE OF A DIFFERENT GENDER IN THE SAME RESTROOM I AM? ps....don't think for a second that we can't tell the difference in a male dressed like a female. Ugh.
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50 Shades of Gay
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Posted 11:51 am, 03/02/2015
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Gay men aren't going to be using the ladies room lol. What interest would a gay man have in the ladies room? A MTF transgendered person might want to use the ladies room however and if he is dressing as a woman you would never know and probably don't now.
As for pedophiles, they are people that have usually never developed an adult sexual orientation. They don't want to have sex with any adult. They want children, some like boys, some like girls, and some like both.
Your logic is flawed Mommotwo. Are you saying you don't care about your little boys who are already in the bathroom every day with gay men and male pedophiles?
Yes, it is possible a straight man attracted to adolescent girls (hebephile) or a pedophile might PRETEND to be a transgender person for the purpose of getting in the ladies room. That same person can do that right now, without a law by disguising themselves as a female.
"The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children � boys, girls, or children of both sexes."
"As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: "The distinction between h*mosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are h*mosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however" (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143, "
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Like2Laugh
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Posted 11:50 am, 03/02/2015
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I think this woud open up a loop hole for sexual predators. You could have someone "claiming" to be taking advantage of their rights, when they are in fact using this as a means to commit crimes against people. This seems very dangerous.
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mommotwo
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Posted 11:45 am, 03/02/2015
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UU, are you uncomfortable using a male restroom?
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TheUUShadow
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Posted 11:42 am, 03/02/2015
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I am 48, soon to be 49, years old. I have walked In on exactly ONE Instance of sex going on In a mens room (In Alamance County at a rest stop by the way). I hurried past the activity, peed Into a toilet and left the room. End of story.
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androids5
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Posted 11:33 am, 03/02/2015
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A MTF transgendered person probably has little attraction to other females
...tell that to Bruce Jenner...
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